In this extended episode, we sit down with Rev. Alvin Herring, who is the executive director of Faith in Action. This conversation was recorded just days after the police-killing of George Floyd, just as our beloved kinfolk were beginning to organize uprisings across the country and around the globe. You may feel the weight of the moment in our voices.  You may also feel the beauty of a poetic faith.

 This contemplative conversation explores how and why Alvin, as a young person, fell in love with organizing; how the Ferguson Uprising changed him and his faith,  and how – in moments like these – art and poetry can help us to face trauma and the feelings of loss and disappointment. 

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