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Chris Kerr: You’ve been doing this work for a long time and in different iterations. What was a point when you were really proud of your work?

Sr. Simone Campbell: When the Affordable Care Act passed, it was this miracle, this amazing miracle, because we had worked so hard…It was so exciting.

But I was so naive. Because you never win these things; because immediately what happened was the beginning of the pushback…You never can declare victory, I’ve discovered, because there’s always some erosion, some slippery slope. And so while I enjoyed that day, I remember it vividly…three days later [the attacks and erosion began]. And now we’re facing a very serious crisis [in the pandemic]. This year, who we elect matters. Maybe I’ll have a sense of victory.

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